That’s the point at which I discovered that there are actually
compounds in plants that are hormonal, and studying their effects in
humans seemed like a fascinating way to combine my training and
interest in nutrition and endocrinology. I applied for the grant and
ended up getting it, and most of my research program since then has
been on phytoestrogens.
What were the circumstances that led to the highly cited 1997 review?
I was invited to write it. Although I don’t often write review
papers, this one seemed particularly timely. My collaborator on this
paper was a post-doctoral fellow in the lab, Xia Xu, and I asked him
if he would write it with me. He said yes, and he was heavily involved
in the writing. The editors of Annual Reviews had decided that
it was a good time for a summary review on the subject of dietary
phytoestrogens and I agreed. It was just at the beginning of public
awareness about phytoestrogens, the foods that contain them such as
soy and flaxseed, and their biological effects in humans. I decided
that the time was right to get the word out to a broader audience.
How did you structure the review? And what was the state of the
science in 1997?
We began by defining what phytoestrogens are and discussing their
dietary sources and chemistry. We then discussed how they’re
metabolized in the body. It’s particularly interesting that they’re
metabolized in the gut by bacteria, and so gut flora exert an
extremely important influence on absorption and exposure. The
implication of this is that intestinal metabolism determines the level
of phytoestrogens that a person is actually exposed to. So if you
imagine a group of people all consuming the same quantity of
phytoestrogens, each person will be exposed to different levels
because of different profiles of gut flora.
We then discussed the ranges of typical physiological levels in
humans, and biological effects, which included hormonal effects. The
primary interest in these compounds at the time was in their
relationship to cancer, to tumor cell growth, anti-oxidation, etc.
In the end we talked about some of the newer emerging research.
Although there had been a lot of research done on phytoestrogens at
the time, most of the research was in vitro or using animal
models—few human clinical studies had been performed. At that time,
for instance, there was very little known about the effects on
menopausal symptoms, bone mass, osteoporosis, heart health, etc. There
were very few human studies looking at cancer. So the last section of
the paper focused on human health.
It’s very interesting to me in retrospect that our review paper
was so brief. If we’d written a comprehensive review now, it could
be ten times longer because so much more is known.
What are the major dietary sources of phytoestrogens?
They’re mainly found in soybeans and flaxseeds. Soy contains
phytoestrogens called isoflavones; flaxseed contains a related group
of compounds called lignans. Isoflavones are highly concentrated in
soybeans; they’re found in much lower levels in other legumes, and
not found in significant levels in any other foods. On the other hand,
lignans are widespread in foods—in whole grains and a number of
berries and fruits—but the most concentrated source used in research
studies is flaxseed. Flaxseed is not a traditional food. Another name
for it is linseed, which is used to make textiles. Flaxseed is
currently used in health foods mainly as a concentrated plant source
of omega-3 fatty acids. We were interested in flaxseed because of the
concentration of lignans, and my research group performed one of the
early studies looking at the effects of flaxseed lignans on hormones
in humans, which may be what prompted the Annual Review editors
to ask me to write the review.
Why do you think your review has been so highly cited over the years?
I think it’s mostly a sign of how big the field has become, and
that this was one of the early reviews. And, of course, the Annual
Reviews are considered an excellent source of this kind of
information. There have been many other reviews written on the
subject, in all kinds of different journals, but I think the fact that
it was in Annual Reviews gives it more credibility.
How has science of phytoestrogens changed in the past decade?
It’s just exploded, particularly in the area of soy effects.
There’s an interesting history here. The soy industry is actually
largely responsible for the enormous amount of research that’s been
done. I give them a lot of credit for that. They supported the early
research and were extremely smart in understanding the importance of
research in evaluating their products and determining whether or not
there were health effects. They believed that there were, and they
understood that research would help them.
So a number of companies were supporting this research, and a
number of states with big soybean crops have funds through which the
growers devote a percentage of their profits to research. By the
1990s, there was enough research, primarily in animals, suggesting
that soy is beneficial and has interesting properties, and that
isoflavones could potentially have physiological properties in humans,
that the federal government started looking at this as a real
opportunity in public health and an area to be funded. So at that
point the NIH started funding soy research, as did the USDA.
Since the 1990s, an enormous amount of research has been done on
soy, and a lot on flaxseed. Most of the federal funding comes from the
National Cancer Institute, because of the interest in cancer
prevention. There have also been studies looking at the effect of soy
and isoflavones on risk factors for heart disease, on hot flashes, and
on bone health. All of these research areas have really taken off.
There’s also been funding from The Institute of Environmental Health
Sciences. They’ve been concerned about the negative potential of
phytoestrogens acting as what they call endocrine disruptors.
Has the general attitude toward soy products changed with this concern
about negative effects?
I would say that the enthusiasm for soy has definitely diminished
over the past couple of years, primarily because of a few publications
that have recently come out suggesting from animal research that soy
might actually promote breast
cancer. Those papers sparked some immediate concern. We’ve also
confirmed what many of us suspected all along, which is that even
though it may exert some health benefits, soy is no magic bullet.
So what can we conclude about the pros and cons of soy, circa 2006?
Soy consumption certainly has some very specific health benefits,
aside from the fact that it’s a good source of protein. I would say
it definitely eases hot flashes, but nowhere near as effectively as
estrogen replacement. It certainly lowers cholesterol, but nowhere
near as effectively as the pharmaceutical statins. Those are the two
areas in which the data are strongest.
When it comes to bone health, the animal data and human data are
fairly suggestive of a benefit. But the studies that need to be done
to prove it are two-year and three-year studies, and those are just
now being done. My suspicion is that even if soy is protective of bone
health, it won’t be as effective as the pharmaceuticals used to
reduce bone loss.
When it comes to breast cancer, the data suggest, both from animals
and humans, that soy consumption during the years of breast
development, which means childhood and pre-puberty, is cancer
preventive, because it actually alters the structure of the breast
making it less vulnerable to cancer. There are also intriguing data
that soy may help prevent prostate
cancer, but more studies in humans need to be done before we can
make conclusive statements about this.
Are you still working predominantly on phytoestrogens or has your
research focus changed over the years?
I have continued to do a lot of research with soy. I’ve done
studies in pre- and post-menopausal women looking at hormonal effects.
I’ve looked at the effects on blood lipids and bone metabolism, and
I’m just finishing a study in men at high risk of prostate cancer.
We’re looking at the effect of soy on intermediary biomarkers of
prostate cancer.
My research program has stayed in the area of diet and cancer
prevention, although I’ve broadened my focus to expand beyond
phytoestrogens. I’ve recently been involved in a study of
cancer-preventive effects of omega-3 fatty acids from fish in
post-menopausal women, and we’re just beginning a study looking at
exercise in young women to see if it has any cancer preventive
effects.
What would you say is the most challenging aspect of this research
now?
That we don’t have any really good biomarkers for cancer and for
breast cancer in particular. For example, with cervical cancer, we can
look at Pap smears; we can do an intervention and use a Pap test as a
marker of what’s happening in the cervix. With prostate cancer, we
thought for many years that PSA was a reasonable biomarker. We could
do a study and look at PSA as an outcome variable and we wouldn’t
have to wait decades to get a meaningful result. But now PSA is no
longer viewed as a good biomarker, because there are too many false
positives.
We don’t have good biomarkers for breast cancer risk, which makes
cancer prevention research in humans extremely difficult. We look at a
number of different biomarkers that may be connected with breast
cancer, but we really don’t know what they mean. If we take
estrogen, for example, epidemiological studies suggest that
circulating estrogens are associated with breast cancer risk. Does
that mean if we do an intervention that causes women to have somewhat
higher estrogen levels, they will get more breast cancer? We don’t
really know.
So there are missing links, serious gaps in our knowledge when it
comes to cancer prevention research in humans. We try to put as many
pieces of the puzzle together as we can, but the limitations of the
studies restrict severely what we can recommend to people who would
like to lower their risk of cancer through dietary changes. Obviously
when you’re doing cancer research, the very best thing would be to
do enormous studies and actually look at cancer as the endpoint. But
that would take many, many years, tens of thousands of subjects, and
far too much money.
What would you like to convey to the general public about your work
and this research in general?
Before I answer that, let me go back to something I was saying
earlier, which is that the public has been extremely interested in
soy, soy supplements, and isoflavone supplements, and people have
wondered if they consume soy, will it do all kinds of great things for
them? Now that the data are showing only modest benefits and not
enormous benefits, and perhaps even some negative effects, there’s a
level of disappointment that has the same energy as the previous level
of enthusiasm. People are just enormously disappointed. And the
problem, I think, is that too many people want the health benefits of
these foods to be the equivalent of the benefits they might get from
taking a drug. But this is a food, it’s not a drug. You’ll never
get the same kind of effects, and this is actually a good thing. If
foods acted like drugs they would have to be regulated like drugs, and
there would be concerns about toxicity, interactions, dosage, etc.,
that we would not want to worry about.
So I think it’s important that the public moderate their
expectations of the kinds of benefits they might get from a specific
food. And I would say when it comes to assessing the health benefits
of specific foods or food components, we should all be careful about
what sources we go to for information. I teach a freshman-level course
on general nutrition in which we spend time teaching the students how
to assess the sources of nutrition information.
The public needs to become more aware of how to assess this
information as well, so they can learn to moderate their expectations.
An advertisement in a magazine, for instance, is probably not the
right place to get nutrition information. The public is rightfully
confused by all the nutrition information in the media and it’s a
general problem that we in the nutrition and medical communities have
to deal with. In the meantime, we should try to teach the public to
take a lot of the latest nutrition news with a grain of salt, and
learn not to expect a food to act like a drug or be a magic bullet
when it comes to our health.
When it comes to soy, I would say that soy is a great source of
protein, and in addition has some interesting effects that are likely
beneficial. Soy modestly lowers cholesterol and reduces hot flashes;
although small, the benefits may be meaningful when soy is consumed
over a lifetime and in combination with other beneficial
phytochemicals. Soy probably reduces bone loss with menopause, but we’ll
get more definitive information on this within the next two years or
so.
As far as breast cancer goes, soy consumption appears to be
beneficial when consumed before puberty, and the effects of consuming
it postmenopausally are controversial. There is a small theoretical
risk that it could stimulate breast cancer cell growth in women who
already have cancer, but this is not serious enough for me to dissuade
women from consuming soy, even high-risk women, unless they are not
regular soy consumers already. There are interesting data suggesting
that soy may help prevent prostate cancer, but again, this is an
emerging area. If you remember that soy is a food and don’t expect
drug-like effects, the benefits are actually quite remarkable.
Mindy S. Kurzer, PhD
Department of Food Science and Nutrition
University of Minnesota
St. Paul, MN, USA