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interview, Dr. Simon Levin, the George M. Moffett Professor of
Biology in Princeton University’s Department of Ecology and
Evolutionary Biology, discusses his highly cited work,
"The problem of pattern and scale in ecology," (Ecology, 73[6]: 1943-1967, December 1992). This review has been
cited 418 times to date, making it the most-cited paper of the
1990s in the field of environmental research.
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What, in your view, is the significance of this paper for the
field?
Understandably, most ecological research—indeed, most
research in any field—is carried out at limited scales of space,
time, and organizational complexity. Yet any such study presents
only a piece of the puzzle, a snapshot that is a slice of a much
broader picture. It is fundamentally important to understand how
one's perspective in terms of the scales chosen shapes the picture
one observes, and to learn how to relate phenomena across scales. In
particular, ecosystems and the biosphere are complex adaptive
systems, in which patterns at one scale emerge from the interplay among processes operating on multiple scales. The great challenge
for our science is to relate these scales, and in particular to
understand how macroscopic phenomena emerge from the collective
dynamics of heterogeneous collections of individual entities.
What were the greatest challenges in performing and
presenting your work?
Drawing together varied points of view independently derived by
numerous investigators working at diverse scales of organization,
and relating ecological and evolutionary points of view.
How did you decide where to submit or publish your paper?
The paper was an invited paper, being based on the Robert
MacArthur Award lecture of the Ecological Society of America (ESA).
I received the Fourth MacArthur Award in 1990, and it was expected
that I would develop my lecture for publication in Ecology,
the flagship journal of the ESA.
If you performed your research again, or published your paper
again, what, if anything, would you do differently and why?
Nothing. I am very happy with the way the lecture came out.
Nearly a decade later, I developed the ideas further into a popular
book, Fragile Dominion, (Fragile Dominion: Complexity and
the Commons. Perseus Books, June 1999) that expresses my
subsequent thinking on the subject. But without "Pattern and
Scale," Fragile Dominion would not have been written.
What would you like to convey to the general public about your
work?
Mainly that the insights are clearly not limited to ecological
systems. Problems of pattern and scale are pervasive in science, and
it is crucial that all scientists recognize the degree to which
their own disciplinary biases (especially in terms of level of
organization) color the way they approach their subjects, and the
answers they obtain.
What are the implications of your work for the future of your
field or neighboring fields?
That all of the systems we encounter, from the cell to the
biosphere, from insect societies to human societies, are complex
adaptive systems in which evolutionary changes are taking place at
multiple levels. What homeostasis and resiliency we may observe in
societies and ecosystems are the result of evolutionary processes at
lower levels, and it is essential to understand that fact if we are
to maintain those systems. Global environmental problems present
particular challenges to society. To sustain the services we derive
from ecological systems, we must tighten feedback loops to reinforce
behaviors at the microscale that are in the public interest at the
macroscale. That is, we must reward individuals for behaviors that
are in the common good, and assess costs to those that are not.
Would you like to leave any other comments about your work or
share a personal side of yourself?
I was trained as a mathematician, but have worked in mathematical
biology for nearly 40 years. For 27 years I was on the faculty at
Cornell, primarily in the Section of Ecology and Systematics. For
the last eight, I have been at Princeton, in Ecology and
Evolutionary Biology, as well as in the Program in Applied and
Computational Mathematics and the Princeton Environmental Institute.
Especially important to me in terms of outside influences have been
my involvement with the Santa Fe Institute, in Santa Fe, New Mexico;
the Beijer International Institute of Ecological Economics, in
Stockholm, Sweden; and the International Center for Theoretical
Physics in Trieste, Italy.
Dr. Simon Levin
Princeton University
Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
Princeton, NJ, USA
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